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Come on Lee, you’re playing semantic games. Haven’t various countries in Africa been either at war with each other, or in alliances with each other against the “new” bad guys? There’s no difference.

Europe has a long history of civil wars, regional wars, and world wars, with The Spanish Civil war, WW1, Napoleon, the War of Spanish Succession, The 30 years war, the many British wars including the war of the Roses… on and on it goes. Which is, of course, my point. If the EU can grow across a region with deep seated hostilities like that, well, anything is possible, as you admitted when you wrote:

Yes, regional arrangements in Africa and South America might work for the same sorts of reasons, of common ethnicity and shared history,

Thank you for this honest reply.

though the thorough undemocratic governments that have ruled and continue to rule in those areas will undermine any truly democratic aspirations

A very real problem that many African activists acknowledge! But my hope is that as Federal structures take on more solidity over time, just as the Lisbon treaty gave the EU more power, we’ll see a gradual implementation of standards of transparency and open democracy, and accountable democracy, being brought to bear across Africa at the national “State” level of the Federation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_states_of_africa

But a World Union?
And yes, going from an African Union, European Union, Central Asian Union, Asian Union, and South American Union to a WORLD UNION woudl be a HUGE step. But once the above list of Unions has been achieved,  the compounding benefits of shared currencies will fantastically reward early adopters. I can visualise a last minute scramble to join the WU once the process has begun.

Pie in the sky? Maybe for this generation. And I still admit the potential for oil-wars and all sorts of anarchy if we REALLY work at being stupid as we hit peak oil. We shall see. But I know what I’m praying for Africa, in both her church, and her governance. What do you pray about the politics of African poverty?

“God, please do something about Africa?”

That’s nice and specific.

This group hit the nail on the head, and expressed pretty much my reasons for coming to the position I have on world government.

Why Do We Pursue These Goals?

In an increasingly interdependent world threatened by escalating global problems arising from poverty, injustice, climate change, international inequalities, trade in arms and drugs, war, crime, religious fundamentalism and terrorism, we believe that our modern civilization is facing a collapse in which we will lose most of the benefits it has brought us unless we can change direction in such a way as to achieve global democracy and justice, and world peace through world law.

What Do We Do?

Working as part of Federal Union with like-minded groups in the UK and as part of a wider international movement, our organisation campaigns in Parliament and in civil society to gain support for more effective and more accountable global governance.

http://www.worldfed.org/home.htm

I had never considered NATO an avenue for potential World Federation. But who would have thought the EU would form from the humble beginnings of the 1950’s coal and steel agreements?

A Community of Democracies

Chris Hamer is particularly interested in the opportunity now presenting itself to transform NATO into a worldwide Community of Democratic Nations, which could be the starting point for an eventual democratic world federation, following an evolutionary path like the European Union.

Europe was “not built all at once, or according to a single plan”, as the Schuman Declaration puts it. It evolved from the nucleus of the European Coal and Steel Community, founded by a smaller group, ‘the Six’, according to the ideas of Jean Monnet. We need to find a way of emulating this evolutionary process for the world community. A treaty forming a Community of Democracies might be the way to go, and could encompass both NATO and the OECD. In the recent Presidential campaign in the US, John McCain talked of a ‘League of Democracies’, and Madeleine Albright talked of a ‘Community of Democracies’, so there would be some sympathy for such ideas on both sides of politics in the US.

So the UN does want to rule the world after all :

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/09/08/years-setbacks-looks-world-leader/

UNITED NATIONS

EXCLUSIVE: After a Year of Setbacks, U.N. Looks to Take Charge of World’s Agenda

By George Russell     Published September 08, 2010         FoxNews.com

After a year of humiliating setbacks, United Nations Secretary General Ban ki-Moon and about 60 of his top lieutenants — the top brass of the entire U.N. system — spent their Labor Day weekend at a remote Austrian Alpine retreat, discussing ways to put their sprawling organization in charge of the world’s agenda.

Details concerning the two-day, closed-door sessions in the comfortable village of Alpbach were closely guarded. Nonetheless, position papers for the meeting obtained by Fox News indicate that the topics included:

—how to restore “climate change” as a top global priority after the fiasco of last year’s Copenhagen summit;

—how to continue to try to make global redistribution of wealth the real basis of that climate agenda, and widen the discussion further to encompass the idea of “global public goods”;

—how to keep growing U.N. peacekeeping efforts into missions involved in the police, courts, legal systems and other aspects of strife-torn countries;

—how to make “clever” use of new technologies to deepen direct ties with what the U.N. calls “civil society,” meaning novel ways to bypass its member nation states and deal directly with constituencies that support U.N. agendas.—how to capitalize on the global tide of migrants from poor nations to rich ones, to encompass a new “international migration governance framework”;

As one underlying theme of the sessions, the top U.N. bosses seemed to be grappling often with how to cope with the pesky issue of national sovereignty, which — according to the position papers, anyway — continued to thwart many of their most ambitious schemes, especially when it comes to many different kinds of “global governance.”

Not coincidentally, the conclave of bureaucrats also saw in “global governance” a greater role for themselves.......

Cool, so the global warming conspiracy is actually a socialist conspiracy to make the 3rd world rich through carbon offsets (not cutting down the Amazon or remaining African forests), and redistribute wealth that way.

Except Monkton still claims global warming is a scheme to keep Africa poor! Oh, wait…

Dave, I am as surprised as you ;)